Ibanez EM5 and DL5 schematic comparison

     After redrawing the Ibanez DL5 schematic, I moved on to the EM5 from the same line. The EM5 has become sought after, and commands hundreds of dollars. The DL5 goes for tens.

    There is an official schematic available for the EM5, but I thought it would be interesting to rearrange it to match my DL5 layout. This highlights differences and similarities. So, here they both are for a-b-ing.

Redrawn EM5 schematic

DL5 schematic

Delay Line

    The biggest visible difference is the delay chip, M50195 vs M65831. The DL5's M50195 uses external RAM and an external comparator, but it functions the same way. Both chips are built around the same adaptive delta modulation converters and1-bit delay line. The external RAM is larger, at 64kb vs 48kb.

    The input filters got moved around a little, but they're identical 5.8kHz lowpasses. The integrator caps in the modulator/demodulator are also the same. The M65831 datasheet specifies that it needs 30Ω series resistors for some reason.

Clock

    The clock is exactly the same, and validates what we found when investigating that part of the DL5.

    For some reason, the extra gates from the inverter weren't used for the bypass logic this time. Instead, they added transistors set up as inverters. These pedals are a bit unreliable when it comes to switching on/off, so maybe this was an improvement to the circuit.

Filters

    The input stage, preemphasis, and deemphasis stages are all basically the same. The frequencies that are boosted and attenuated haven't changed.

    We already compared in the delay line's input filters, and found that they're the same. We also have output filters though, and they're different. The DL5 cuts at 5.8kHz, matching its input filter. The EM5 cuts lower at 3.9kHz. Immediately after that, there's an additional lowpass formed by R16 and C19. Together these give the EM5 a darker sound, and probably help filter the additional noise that comes from using less memory for the same length of delay.

    The EM5's output filter also has soft-clipping diodes, presumably to prevent runaway echos that get louder and louder. There's more gain in the feedback loop (lower R17 value) to compensate for this lower output. Strangely, R20 has been more than doubled, limiting the maximum volume of the repeats.

In Closing

    The two pedals don't have any major differences that explain the 10x price gap, at least not to my satisfaction. I suspect people happen to like the darker sound, and maybe the clipping of the EM5. It should be trivial to make the DL5 sound the same though. Since it's built on the same tech, I believe a humble PT2399 delay could also sound the same.